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Kai and Jackal
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Discovering the Future in Past Stories with Kai and Jackal

When invited on our show, Kai and Jackal, hosts of Stealth: a Transmasculine Podcast, both asked "Are you sure you have the right people?" We can assure you we do! Kai and Jackal discuss what they've learned from interviewing transgender men who transitioned more than twenty years ago and the implications of doing so in a time where trans people did not have the visibility they do in the 2020s. We also share the wisdom they've gleaned from their personal journeys, how non-binary thinking has evolved, and how leadership is about influence. By elevating the stories of others, and providing hope and inspiration to future leaders, Kai and Jackal have proven again and again that they're very much leaders themselves.

Highlights
  • ​(08:30): Support from Chosen Family made My Journey Possible
  • (12:45): Experiencing Sexism Firsthand Revealed the Impact of Power and Privilege
  • (51:47): Leadership is Rooted in Humility and Curiosity
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Guest Biography
Kai and Jackal are the co-founders of Stealth: a Transmasculine Podcast which captures the stories of trans elders and is starting its third season. You can check them out at transmasculinepodcast.com 

Jackal is a transman who grew up in the Los Angeles area and began transitioning around 1998 in the supportive Seattle community. Hel is a passionate anti-racist, and anti-oppression advocate currently involved in two projects helping people hone their English skills by discussing Feminism, Trans inclusion, Intersectionality, and Racism. He identifies as a transman, FTM, nonbinary and genderqueer and also as white, working class and queer. He loves karaoke and currently lives with his dog and two cats.  

Kai is a queer transman who began transition in 1995.  Before beginning life as an amateur podcaster, Kai spent his free time watching reruns of “The Great British Bake Off”.  Kai surrounds himself with lots of furry critters, including his clownish Frenchie, Honey.  Kai enjoys storytelling, came out of the womb asking questions, and is thrilled to get to know his transmasculine brothers a little better through his podcast. 
Show Notes
Season 1, Episode 15

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Credits
Guest: Kai and Jackal
​Host: Liz Cavallaro
Host: Bree Fram
Audio: Frieda Garcia
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